we're seeing is where you start with Ameritas Dental your contracting or your a currently that's the basis point so if you think you have any for ten years they're gonna jump up and get us up to market rate of what a new office would get or what the current rate is in the area that's really not the case it is in some cases but.
The majority really are coming back I Ameritas Dental would say a direct negotiation is somewhere typically in the to percent range right now if they're coming back with the negotiation now we're not seeing them necessarily make big leaps to get you up to market value as much as we used to so you have to definitely be hitting as often as.
You can that they'll accept your increase on the quest because the longer you wait in the other thing too is that it's varying year by year of which insurance companies are negotiating or not and there can be careful is where just this year maybe they decided.
Ameritas Dental We're not doing negotiations for this year and we'll start again in if that's the case you've then totally missed your window of time until they start up again so no you definitely want to be not waiting any longer than you have to now in that example that you just gave so let's say.
I went to the interns company and tried to get them to Ameritas Dental negotiate but they say we're not negotiating now do I have to wait another two years before I ask again I'll go back then when it's available like for example if the company says we're not doing anything till put it on your calendar for January st indigo yeah or they may just say we're declining now.
They're declining they may be saying we've actually reviewed it we are there living negotiations in suitcases we're declining your specific profits and then you may have to leave another two years what percentage of offices do you think negotiate with PPOs actually